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Post by Chloe on Feb 20, 2012 19:48:15 GMT -5
Need your opinion!
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Post by LymeLyme on Feb 21, 2012 21:02:54 GMT -5
I`d say so. I mean, it`s part of tradition or religion, right?
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Post by dzetsu on Feb 22, 2012 4:41:43 GMT -5
"Marriage is a joke. People only recently started to marry for love. And people only recently started to divorce."
Not my opinion, but I felt like saying it.
Marriage is not a right that you have because you are a certain gender or race or whatever. It is something that everyone is entitled to do.
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Post by Chloe on Feb 22, 2012 15:09:12 GMT -5
What about homosexuals? And I don't know the situation in Canada but in America a clause of the 14th amendment states "... And among these rights are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." And I would count marriage as a pursuit of happiness.
And also I only needed this tuesday, I was debating.
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Post by ~Kagamine Rin~ on Feb 23, 2012 17:14:02 GMT -5
Marriage isn't a right, but it shouldn't be denied. Various celebrities also agree that marriage isn't necessary (look at Johnny Depp, 2 kids and not married to his wife, but still in a relationship). In the case of gay marriage: Again, the option should be available for all humans, not just one group; who you love shouldn't not dictate whether you marry.
hope it helps! ^^
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Post by ai-shi-te on Mar 7, 2012 3:11:07 GMT -5
Erm...by the way, Haku, not to put you down or anything, but I believe that that is not the fourteenth amendment, but that's the natural rights declared in the Declaration of Independence.
For Gay Rights, and I'll be totally honest, the can probably plead the Ninth amendment because it says no where in the Bill of Rights, U.S. Constitution, or the Declaration of Independence that gays cannot get married.
The Fourteenth Amendement, I would say, would only deal with African American rights as it was created after/during, around that time, of the Civil War. After all, from what I can remember, since my best grades were ironically in World and American history, that the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendment all were passed around the same time around the time of the Civil War or something. It's been a while history, so I could be wrong right now too.
But as to if marriage is a right or not, it all still depends on perspective.
To me, marriage is not a right, it's a privilege. Heck, if I got married, I'd tell my hubby that marrying me was not a right, but a privilege, he should feel privileged to have been able to marry me.
And, it might sound mean but, I'm going to be totally honest.
I don't see the point of getting married, it takes up a lot of time and money and you have to go through papers and a whole bunch of other troubles if you're going to get married legally, or getting married officially, seeing as I don't know how people can get married illegally unless one person is under eighteen and doesn't have parent permission.
But anyways, when I think about it, Homosexuals don't need the right to get married. And, horribly saying, it's cheaper too, and less stressful.
But the reason why homosexuals are fighting so hard for marital rights for gays is that as individuals, they are getting their natural rights as well since il-legalization gay marriage is actually a crime against the natural rights of homosexuals. After all, all MEN are created equal with the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Marriage is honestly unnecessary, that's the truth.
Have you seen the series called West Wing, it seems boring, but it's actually interesting. There was this one episode where one of the president's crew members was having a talk with a congress man who was against gay marriage but was actually gay himself. He said he doesn't need the world to know that he's married to the man that he loves just as long as he can love the man he loves.
That's pretty grown up and mature of him, and I applaud that character. Just goes to show that marriage is actually meaningless, besides the fact that there are quite a lot of divorces that happen within a year after marriage anyways.
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